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James from Canada - July 12, 2011
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| James from Canada - July 12, 2011 | July 12, 2011 @ 12:01am | In today's Daily Critique Craig looks at a beautiful impressionistic flower shot and discusses the following:
- making a case for color as the most dominant element of design
- hue, value, and intensity - the three aspects of color
- working with color to create the illusion of more depth
- the importance of tension and conflict in storytelling
- Metadata -35mm Film body f2.8 70 - 200mm zoom, Fuji 50 ISO slide film
Click here to view the video.
"There are always two people in every picture: the photographer and the viewer." ~Ansel Adams | My Blog |
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| July 12, 2011 @ 8:16am | Love the softness and ethereal feeling to your image, James. I also now have one more thing to think about when going through my images, look for the possibility of changing color in order to change relationships between different parts of the image. Now back to the drawing board to see what kind of changes I can make to improve my images.
Thank you both, James and Craig,
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Craig
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| thank you | July 12, 2011 @ 9:40am | Hey Wes and Blake,
Thank you for being here.
Blake - I should have mentioned in the video that I didn't play with contrast because of James' declaration that he was going for an impressionistic look. If I was processing this in more of a traditional way then without a doubt setting a black and white point would be a PPS step I would look at. I was trying to achieve more depth with color changes and the associated value changes as hues changed so as to keep the overall feeling of contrast low. I even played with flattening the overall contrast even more......Craig
“Anxiety is the dizziness of freedom.” -Soren Kierkegaard
“The secret of life…is to fall seven times and to get up eight times.” - Paulo Coelho, from The Alchemist
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Last Edit: July 12, 2011 @ 2:49pm by Craig | |
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| July 12, 2011 @ 9:44am | love the image, and the critical color changes introduced me to a new concept of DOF determined by color, thank you
Joe Liftik
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| July 12, 2011 @ 10:03am | Hello,
Very clever concept--- the idea of those two petals reaching ---- will there be contact. Brought a lot of thoughts to mind that chime with human effort and relationships. Should one give a helping hand to bring about the connection or will that be seen as interfering. Sense of longing is there. Kept switching between the sadness of longing and always remaining out of touch and the opposite feeling of the moment before connection and the joy and elation when that is achieved.
With such a clever observation I wonder if there was the opportunity to really work this shot and take lots more images and perhaps there would have been one where the concept jumped out of the scene a bit more.
Thanks very much James--- you've opened my eyes and mind.I'll be looking at things differently from now on. |
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| July 12, 2011 @ 3:43pm | While I understand the changes in principal, these were purple coneflowers..they have a distinct coloration and the changes made took away their identity.As a greeting card abstract impression is probably fine...but this is the season of their unique and well known color, especially among the lilies now also in their full glory. Changing their identity so dramatically feels somehow uncomfortable... Off somehow...would be interested to know if you would have sought another way to make the changes had you known the particular flower...just curious how you feel about this part of the image's story Craig...
As an aside, when you get up close to the actual "cone" it goes from a brilliant yellow green/green in the shadows at the base through a yellow /then adding reds to make almost a painter's color wheel progression to red-orange/red punctuated by a final flash of red -violet. |
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Last Edit: July 12, 2011 @ 4:48pm by patricias | |
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| Thanks Craig! | July 12, 2011 @ 8:57pm | | Hi Craig, I'm a relatively new member and really enjoy listening to and learning from your daily critiques. The critique of my image today was very thorough, thoughtful and very much appreciated. I never would have associated color with depth of field and after watching your video a few times; it certainly made sense and now I’m aware of another key perspective to keep in mind while I photograph/process images. I played around with my image tonight applying what I learned through the video and was amazed at the difference and improvement. Thanks again for taking the time to evaluate my image as you did. To Patricias, G from UK, jliftik, blakerobinson, and Wes; thanks for the kind words, recommendations and support, they too are greatly appreciated. Jim from Montreal, CA |
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Last Edit: July 12, 2011 @ 8:58pm by Jim | |
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| July 12, 2011 @ 9:29pm | James, I really really like your image, and immediately "got it" .. that the petals were reaching, and interpreted the image to be about relationships. (now I may be reading personal into it on the relationships part, but impressionism heads in that direction). Anyway, to continue. For me the original colors are fantastic and the best. I suspect for each of us there is an emotional color bias. For me yellow is a color I avoid ( - want out of a yellow room), so when Craig moved the colors to emphasize yellow the image no longer worked for me. However brightening the stamen (?) part of the flower, as Craig suggested, did help (opened in ACR and used HSL sliders -luminance). Also a small crop, left and top, to bring the right flower closer to the edge and clip some of the main flower's left side petals helped make it more about relationships, for the flowers were closer together and more contained. But, what made a big difference for me was using liquify to slightly arch the lower straight reaching petal (leaving the tip where it is and slightly bowing the rest downward). Slightly lightening the lower rt corner per Craig helped too. And, one last comment. You were referenced as noting you liked the image but others didn't .. you might be consulting the wrong people. For me this is a very powerful image.
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| James from Canada | July 12, 2011 @ 11:06pm | | James first of all i liked the image and the idea. I often get wrapped up in color usually trying to keep it as realstic as possible and always question if i have gone too far if i am trying to get something to pop. It was good to see the changes Craig made. It gives me some reassurance to try something diferent whether it is color, contrast or black and white sometimes you can make good things happen.. |
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| thank you | July 13, 2011 @ 8:46am |
Hey Everybody,
Thank you for all of the feedback. James thank you again for a great submission.
Patricias...... to specifically answer your question....whenever color is in play I always consider the veracity of color because a departure from real color can become a huge distraction for the viewer. My openess to changing it here had alot to do with James impressionistic / abstract interpretation to begin with.
Colors carry so many different consequences for the composer and viewer of photography....as Wil pointed out personal bias is just one of them but it is a very powerful aspect of color. That is why I convert so many of my images to black and white....it dramatically simplifies and creates an immediate abstraction that gives me alot more freedom in my post processing.....Craig
“Anxiety is the dizziness of freedom.” -Soren Kierkegaard
“The secret of life…is to fall seven times and to get up eight times.” - Paulo Coelho, from The Alchemist
PPY
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| July 13, 2011 @ 6:52pm | | Thanks for the insight on this Craig...Thinking out loud I can actually see the potential for a series of botonicals done this way, but with some of your beautiful toning with just a bit of warmth in sepias. Good food for thought...Thanks to both you and the image's creator... Pat |
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Bill
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| Color | July 14, 2011 @ 6:24pm | ]While I understand the changes in principal, these were purple coneflowers..they have a distinct coloration and the changes made took away their identity.
I agree. The color of the purple coneflower is so well known and, as far as I am aware, universal that your changes really bothered me.
Sorry. It was good lesson on color principals - not a good result in my opinion. |
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| Thanks Wil | July 24, 2011 @ 7:54am | | Wil, I cropped the image per your suggestion and was surprised to see the affect the improvement had on my image. My eye was drawn immediately to the concept of relationship I originally focused on. This was a good learning excercise for me that I wont soon forget. Your suggestion to further change the image by liquifing parts of it didnt fundamentally agree with me. I'm a relatively new convert to digital photography and the use of photoshop. Short of a few minor adjustments (exposure, cropping, fixing scratches, etc.), I simply cant break away from my basic beliefs of what photography is and how my principles conflict with manipulation that results in an image that isnt what I actually saw. For good or bad, this is where I'm at in the process. Thank you for your kind words and the time you took to comment with your constructive suggestions Wil, they are greatly appreciated. Jim from Canada |
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