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The Great Photo Finish: Working with Kuler - August 19, 2009 Started August 19, 2009 @ 5:24pm by Kel
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| The Great Photo Finish: Working with Kuler - August 19, 2009 | August 19, 2009 @ 5:24pm | In this episode of The Great Photo Finish Craig looks at a colorful portrait and discusses the following:
- Working with Kuler, an exciting extension found in Adobe Photoshop CS4, that can help us to learn more about color theory, learn more about specific color relationships within our images, and do a better job of managing color as we edit our photographs.
Click here to view the video.

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| August 19, 2009 @ 5:56pm | A great new way of using the Kuler tool in PS!
I am used to working with palettes for web-design, but never thought of using them in the ways that you mentioned and never bothered with Kuler for my photography.
You just opened a new door for me into a very very wide room, thanks Craig.
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MikeH

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| August 19, 2009 @ 6:08pm | Wow how cool, this is fabulous, I've got a color wheel but could only use it for basic gross adjustments. This is going to change how I work in color. I would have never found this. Thank you, thank you, oh and thank you!!

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| Skin Tones | August 19, 2009 @ 7:17pm | Craig,
Great tool. In addition to the additive modes you described, I use the tool to find the complementary color when removing skin tone variations when retouching faces. It is next to impossible to guess the right color when working more in subtractive modes, and this tool makes things remarkably simple. When working in subtractive modes, your advice to take it slow is critically important. If fact, I use brush densities of only 0.5% (Flow=1% and opacity=50%) and always at high mag.
Great tool and great piece of advice.
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Wes

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| August 19, 2009 @ 7:42pm | Great tutorial on Kuler, Craig. I had found it and messed around with it but not until now, did I see how it could be used. It should be quite useful to use in our journey into photography. Also thanks for taking the time a start a new thread that will be related to this wonderful little panel.
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Stephen Issell

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| August 19, 2009 @ 11:39pm | This was a great Vid on Kuler and how one can use it.
How do those that don't have the latest CS4 edition get around this. I thought I'd better ask before mentioning my little method in case I have missed something.

 Stephen. Aus. Web Site Post Processing of my images is OK (PPOK)
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Craig Administrator

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| Thank you! | August 20, 2009 @ 4:54am | Hey Everybody,
Thank you for being here and thank you for your support.
Stephen.... good question. You can access the Kuler create page here and use the color numbers and or the hex number to plug the color into your older version of Photoshop.
I may do a tutorial on this in the future.
Here is a link to Adobe's main page for Kuler which has FAQS.
It sounds like you may already have a work around and if you do please share it with us here. Hope others will chimew in on this thread about their tips for using Kuler as well. Rick's idea of using Kuler in a subtractive way to get rid of undesirable skin color casts is a great example of a brilliant way to use this powerful tool.......Craig

 “Anxiety is the dizziness of freedom.” -Soren Kierkegaard
“The secret of life…is to fall seven times and to get up eight times.” - Paulo Coelho, from The Alchemist
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Stephen Issell

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| August 20, 2009 @ 5:42am | Craig, I do not have a method to use Kuler in the lesser versions of Photoshop. I was rather hoping that there was one and that I had missed it.
A less elegant way that I get around this is with a PSD color wheel that I have open along with the file I am working on. The PSD file can be found at http://www.taupo.co.uk/colourdesign.html
I've saved this file in a couple of places on the PC for peace of mind reason's. The first thing I did was to create an action that auto opens the file rather than having to deal with the open dialog box all the time.
With my working file open and on top I choose the colour picker and select what ever colour I'm interested in as my foreground colour. In this case the blue in the shirt. 
I then make active the colour wheel file and go to the layers pallete. In the layers pallete, double click where I have marked with an orange line and the colour pick box will open up. What you do next is to now go to your foreground colour on the left and sample that colour. You will notice that your colour wheel has changed and the little box will now show your colour from the sample taken from the shirt. Close the colour pick dialog box by hitting ok.

I now then swap the forground and background colours. From the colour wheel select the direct complimentry color. Now proceed as per Craigs instructions to add some complimentry colour where you choose. In this case I added a bit more to the hat area.

Now that's as clear as mud I bet. This is much easier to show that to try and explain with words. I'd suggest that you download the file and have a play..
Craig if this does not belong here by all means move it to a more appropriate place.

 Stephen. Aus. Web Site Post Processing of my images is OK (PPOK)
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Craig Administrator

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| Thank you! | August 20, 2009 @ 6:20am |
Hey Stephen,
This is exactly the kind of community and sharing that I envision when I think about TME. Thank you for taking the time to post this. To say the least not everybody works with CS4 or even Photoshop and this is just one more great way to consciously edit with color.....Craig

 “Anxiety is the dizziness of freedom.” -Soren Kierkegaard
“The secret of life…is to fall seven times and to get up eight times.” - Paulo Coelho, from The Alchemist
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David Pitcher

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| August 20, 2009 @ 11:44am | Craig, great to see the video coverage on Adobe Kuler! Kuler has been an awesome learning tool for me and hopefully many more people now.
I also like to leverage the online Kuler site to help me learn and discover color combinations that work well visually or find color combinations that help invoke an emotion or feeling. I do this with the Kuler online tool in the "Create" mode but with using the "From Image" option and leverage the power of the Flickr community to randomly select or search images.
Once I find a color combination I like I can save that a "Private" themes for future reference. You can also modify the theme or even export the theme as an Adobe Swatch file and then import into Adobe Photoshop Swatches pallete and perform the steps Craig demonstrated in the video. |
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Craig Administrator

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| Thank you | August 20, 2009 @ 11:52am | Hey David,
Thank you so much for sharing some more great information about Kuler.
I can't begin to adequately thank you for all of the ways you inspired me on the Whidbey Island workshop.... hope this finds you doing very well my friend.... Craig

 “Anxiety is the dizziness of freedom.” -Soren Kierkegaard
“The secret of life…is to fall seven times and to get up eight times.” - Paulo Coelho, from The Alchemist
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JPetty

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| August 20, 2009 @ 10:45pm | I loved this discussion on color, color theory, and use of this unique color wheel. It has come in quite handy as I've been dealing with some color aberrations that have cropped up in a few pictures. Now the pictures don't look as if they were shot on Mars.
Stephen, I've used a color wheel pretty much like yours to fix some of those troublesome photos I mentioned above. This method works well too.
One hint I learned a long time ago, and which has nothing to do with a color wheel of any kind, is that any color will match any other color as long as the intensity is the same. So if you want to put that kelly green with that red, make sure the intensity of both colors match--no matter that it will most likely blind you to look at it.
Janet

 Go ahead and play with the images. I would ask that when you post them on other sites (such as Flikr, Photobucket, etc.) that you credit my photography. I would do the same for you! Other than that, I'm E Z T D B W. |
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Bill

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| Thank you | August 23, 2009 @ 4:49pm | Wow, this is fantastic. I had no idea that Kuler was buried there in PS. This may be the single most important learning event in my history with PS. And that's saying something because I have learned so much both here and back in the RV days, virtually everything I know about the program in fact. I've already played around with this on some old files and the difference is nothing short of amazing. Craig, thank you so much for this. You are the best.

 BILL B. PPY http://blabirch.blogspot.com/
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| August 27, 2009 @ 3:01pm | | Wow, this is pretty terrific. I've always found color extremely difficult to work with. This may have opened up a whole new world for me. Thank you so much Craig and David!!! |
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